The family local? Uh...
Parents upstate. Fiancé in town.
You don't think somebody local did this?
Hard to say at this point.
I go to church with these people.
We get peeping Toms, sure. But something like this?
It doesn't make sense.
To go from shoplifters and underage kids buying beer to...
what happened to Beverly... has to be an outsider.
Draped over the ironing board here, is that human hair?
You have it?
Yeah, Forensics bagged it up.
It's all about Forensics. I am starting to appreciate that.
And the ironing board, you take that as well?
Uh, I mean, we dusted it
for fingerprints and everything, but, uh...
But you do think the unsub scalped
Beverly and then draped it over the ironing board?
Does that mean something?
Everything in this photo has meaning.
If the unsub meant to display the hair, that means he's saying something.
He could've put the hair anywhere.
Right, no, I get it now. Uh...
Soon as Forensics confirms it's Beverly's hair...
I'm sorry, what?
Well, we shouldn't jump ahead of Forensics, am I right?
I think, in this case,
we have a dead body missing a chunk of hair,
a big chunk of hair nearby,
so we can go out on a limb and assume...
I think what Agent Ford is trying to say, in his own way,
is we're behind the eight ball here,
we've come late to the party.
We're gonna have to go over ground you've covered:
witnesses, crime scene.
We don't mean that as a challenge to you.
It's not any kind of a criticism.
We're just trying to catch up. Am I right, Agent Ford?
我们只是想赶上进度 对吗 福特探员
We may ask some obvious questions
and maybe a few you haven't thought of.
But it's not a contest or a competition.
We're all on the same side.
Let's go through the rest.
I'm curious why you're cutting this guy so much slack.
He's never seen this kind of thing before.
He's rattled. It's not his fault.
Without a doubt you have more experience,
but why rub it in his face?
I'm not trying to make you feel bad.
Maybe a little.
The point is, local cops want
to catch their guy as much as we do, maybe more.
For them, it's not just theoretical, it's where they live.
This is where your focus should be.
Not on the crime scene, not on the corpse, not on the schematics.
不是现场 不是尸体 不是犯罪图解
Focus on Beverly.
What did the killer see in her?
We've learned that this is a crucial detail,
and not the only one.
Based on the facts Detective Ocasek laid out earlier,
our methodology tells us we're looking for a white male.
These crimes rarely cross racial lines.
He's probably around Beverly's age.
A killer will usually choose someone smaller and weaker than himself.
He's a loner, hunts at night.
I'm sorry, "Hunts"? Is that a figure of speech?
抱歉 "狩猎" 这是比喻说法吗
It is not.
Coroner's report said Beverly was killed and then butchered.
Isn't that what hunters do?
We're probably looking for a loner.
These men like to explore the fantasy first,
bondage pornography, hardcore material.
It gives them a certain... attitude towards women.
Hence, a loner.
Close knit community like this, you would've spotted that by now.
I think our man is an outsider, probably a drifter.
Most likely, he'll move on from here and kill again.
The killer thought of
Beverly Jean as just another piece of trash.
Folks loved Beverly Jean. Trusted her with their kids.
Had to be a drifter, like you say.
Some stranger passing through town.
All that pretty hair caught his eye.
He needed to possess it, then destroy it.
You talk to the fiancé?
There's only so much you can get out of a man in that state.
Benjamin was still in shock. Gotta take all that into account.
Well, I'm sure you know your people,
but let's just cover our bases.
And let's try to get him cold. Make some excuse when you call.
Don't mention the FBI, or even the murder.
Help us get an unguarded response.
Soon as Benjamin gets back into town.
Back into town? You let the fiancé leave?
He went up north for a bit to be with his relatives.
You need to be with family at times like this.
He'll be back soon. I'll vouch for that.
He'll be back.
Where was the body found?
Up here to the left.
Here's the ironing board.
Right. I'll have a couple
of the boys come pick it up. Sorry about that.
No apology necessary. We're all learning as we go.
You can see why I went easy on the fiancé.
Ugly end for someone you just proposed to.
How long were they engaged?
Couple months, I think.
Could be he felt trapped.
By a pretty, young blonde?
Remember what Wendy said?
A colleague of ours, a psychologist.
Events we process as good news
sometimes hit these killers the wrong way.
Who found the body?
A welder, Alvin Moran, out taking his dog for a hike.
一位焊工 埃尔文·莫兰 当时带着狗去远足
At the dump? He have an alibi?
Alibi? He came to us. Why's he need an alibi?
什么 就是他报的案 他还需要不在场证明吗
Sometimes the killer will
insinuate himself into the investigation.
Even report his own crime?
Can we talk to him?
You remember me, Mr. Moran?
These men from the FBI would like to talk to you. That all right?
We're told you found Beverly Jean's body.
How'd you happen to find yourself at the dump?
Hiking. Wopsononock Mountain.
Like to take the trail, clear my head.
Get a break from the wife and kids? That's right.
Get up there a few times a week. Take the dog for a walk.
Still not clear how that puts you at the dump.
The path comes in pretty close. Does it?
You see any sign of a hiking trail out by the dump, Bill?
The other side of the railroad tracks, up the hill.
Looks like a bunch of trees from where you're standing.
But if there's no clear view from the dump to the trail...
Are you really FBI?
Am I under suspicion here?
So I come off the trail to take a piss, no law against it.
There may be, actually, but let's leave that for now.
You go to take a piss, you see Beverly Jean's body...
I thought it was a store mannequin or something.
Wouldn't your dog have gone straight for it?
Might have, but that's not what happened. What kind of dog?
应该 不过当时不是这样 什么狗
Retriever. And he didn't sniff it out first?
That seems odd.
He's an old dog. Not too old for a hike.
I took care of my business,
I collected my dog, and I went to the police.
Right away? Few hours later? Next day?
马上 几小时后 还是隔天
Couple hours later. Maybe that night.
It was actually morning when you came in, sir.
Why'd you wait so long to report the body, Mr. Moran?
You're talking to the FBI, Mr. Moran.
If we want to find something out, we will find it out.
I was scared the cops might want me for it, okay?
My wife talked me out of that. I did my duty as a citizen.
You thought they'd want you for a murder?
I seen cops get desperate, grab whoever they can get.
But why you?
I got a bit of a record, all right?
It ain't much. I lit up a few
fires when I was a kid, got into a few fights.
I ain't proud of it.
Came here, met my wife.
Family man now. Before that, did you move around a lot?
现在成家了 在这之前 你经常搬家吗
Not a good way to live. I feel settled now.
Is that your statement, Mr. Moran?
I come into town, grab a beer now and then.
I seen Beverly Jean a few times.
You saw Beverly Jean at a bar?
At The Kettle.
Finally got up the nerve. The nerve to do what?
To buy her a drink.
She wasn't interested, end of story.
Maybe I asked her more than once.
More than once that night at the bar,
or on more than one occasion?
I guess you'd say on more than one occasion.
He's too old and too married.
He was a drifter until recently.
Beverly Jean rejected him.
He's got a record. He tried to help the police.
And his alibi? Home watching TV with the wife?
If a man like that took Beverly Jean,
he'd draw it out, make her suffer.
You saw the photos, he must've tortured her for hours.
Those wounds were inflicted posthumously. Can't forget that.
You said that before. What difference does that make?
When you're married, it's a contract.
There's children, a mortgage,
a house to keep up, almost like a business.
Only you can't quit. She can't fire you.
Stock goes up, stock goes down...
doesn't matter, you're trapped.
Unless you want to bring on the lawyers and open Pandora's box.
Resentment builds on both sides.
A thousand tiny cuts.
If Alvin Moran had a married man's anger,
he'd have tortured, then killed her.
No question in my mind.
Maybe we should talk to his wife. See if there's anything there.
I mean, she's the whole alibi.
Wouldn't mind checking it holds up.
Mrs. Moran, thank you for coming in.
My name is Bill Tench. This is my partner, Holden Ford.
I don't understand. I can't call my husband?
Aren't I supposed to get my phone call?
You're not under arrest, Mrs. Moran.
These men are from the FBI.
They just want to ask you a couple questions.
Have you been following the investigation?
Can't look at that. Poor girl.
Wouldn't hurt a fly. You knew her?
Can we ask how you knew her?
She was almost our babysitter. Almost?
We talked with her about it.
When she left, Alvin wouldn't shut up about the girl.
You know what I mean.
It's best if we don't have to guess, ma'am.
She was young, and skinny, and...
Oh, such pretty blonde hair."
Didn't need that in my house.
Not with two little kids in the picture.
What do I look like?
Were you aware that your husband made overtures to Beverly
on several occasions?
Didn't I just say he had a thing for the poor girl?
Alvin does this.
It's like sportfishing. He doesn't mean anything by it.
We were told he was home with you watching television
the night Beverly disappeared.
You think Alvin did this?
I mean, I'd love for him to get a good scare,
bothering a girl half his age,
The idiot was with me.
The whole night?
The whole night.
Okay, her husband made a pass at a younger woman.
He's an idiot.
But so are a million other men.
I don't see any of the anger you've been talking about.
So lo and behold, we're back to the fiancé.
Follow your own logic, Bill.
The anger makes no sense in a young couple either.
This could be the first killing in a sequence.
Nine times out of ten, it's the boyfriend,
the husband, somebody close.
Nine times isn't every time, Bill.
Can't say how much I appreciate all your help.
Sorry if I got off a little shaky there at the start.
I'm gonna stick with Alvin,
if it's all the same, keep you posted.
So you're in the middle of an ongoing investigation?
A local detective asked for our help. What else could we do?
Tell them you have more important things to do with your time.
We've been consulting with local cops for years.
No reason to change that now.
My assumption is you're good at your job.
Which means you're gonna be
more focused on solving an actual crime
than the theoretical work we're doing here.
And that's bad? It's not a question of good or bad.
We can't end crime, no matter what we do.
But in the long run, I think that our project
could have a deeper impact than solving a single murder.
We can do both. It's not an issue.
So what jumped out when you were talking to Rissell?
He seems aware of the trap of his childhood.
How things might be different
if he was allowed to stay with his dad.
Kemper said something similar. Didn't he?
They're both playing the victim, looking for sympathy.
I think it's more complicated than that.
I think you're both right. I mean, it's self pity, absolutely.
And the psychopath understands how that plays to his audience.
Exactly. But the complicated part
is that they actually believe it. They have to.
I mean, if they admitted that they rape and murder for pleasure,
it would destroy them.
There's a tension.
They need to be seen to have power over someone,
and yet circumstance demands that they erase the only witness,
which means they have to do the whole thing over again.
It must be hell.
So the self pity angle works.
You have sympathy for both of them.
Yeah, of course. How else could I do my job?
Do Kemper and Rissell have other common traits?
Is that what you're doing with these cards,
figuring out similarities?
And differences. I've been going through their files.
I'm trying to frame an overall taxonomy,
except I don't know where to start.
Start with the crime scene.
Kemper's like a general, planning his campaigns.
But Rissell... Didn't intend to kill his first victim.
All of his victims seem spontaneous.
He just walks away when he's done.
Whereas Kemper took photographs, and dissected the victims,
and was very good at hiding the remains.
So could we say "Systematic" and "Anti systematic"?
Maybe something a little less...
Something even a beat cop could understand straight away.
Right. Like "organized" and "disorganized."
Okay. Let's try it.
What goes where?
High intelligence" would go under "Organized."
Low intelligence": "Disorganized."
What do you think? Definitely.
The class is great,
but he's a little obsessed with the meaning of shit.
Does shit have meaning?
All shit has meaning, man.
Is that her?
No. Wendy's more...
Look at you.
Dr. Wendy has you all nervous. Should I be jealous?
Would I have invited her
to go out with us if I was interested in her?
I've seen men do stranger things.
So she's married. How does that follow?
If you're not interested, she must be married.
For a man who picks up strange women in bars,
you have your scruples.
I don't think she is married.
Do you plan on getting married?
Having kids, the whole thing?
Are you proposing, Holden Ford?
Your parents have a good marriage? I have no idea.
Where's this coming from? The study.
We're talking a lot about parents.
Harsh mothers, absent fathers.
All fathers are absent fathers.
That's definitely her.
Wendy Carr. Deborah Mitford.
It's a pleasure.
Thank you so much for the invitation.
It was unexpected, but appreciated.
Yeah, for a fed, he's not so bad at having a good time.
Are you in law enforcement also?
No, I'm doing postgrad, actually.
Sociology at UVA. What's your concentration?
Social deviance. So... Durkheim?
Yes. Oh, God.
Just because I didn't know who Durkheim was...
Or Goring, or Blumer. It's fine.
查尔斯·格林 犯罪学先驱赫伯特·布鲁默 美国社会学家
I'm not intimidated being around women who are smarter than me.
Men often say that, but they rarely mean it.
Holden means it.
He has a lot of flaws, but surprisingly, that's not one of them.
I'm... Excuse me. Yes.
我 请来一下 请讲
Could I get a Manhattan? And will you have another round?
Yeah, thank you. Yeah.
好的 多谢 好的
So he called you directly?
No, Andrea called. Said he wanted to meet with us.
没有 安德里亚打的 说他想见咱们
Any idea what this is about?
No. Usually, it's about finding clarity.
But he asked for me specifically?
All three of us.
Dr. Carr, Unit Chief Shepard.
Nice to meet you finally.
You as well.
Sit, please. All of you.
So, how's everything? Progressing?
Uh, yes, thank you.
Fine, thanks. Slowly, but yes.
挺好的 进展不快 但挺好的
Can I help with anything?
Is there anything I need to know?
Sir, if this is about the car... Nobody cares about the car.
长官 如果是关于那车 谁在乎车
It was insured and I assume driven by your protégé.
It's not important who was driving. I agree.
Dr. Carr, I'm aware of your consulting with Bill over the years
and your help framing
certain psychological concepts with the BSU.
Uh, yes, a handful of times. Special Agent Tench was...
是的 就几次 特别探员比尔·坦奇曾经
I assume that meant you
understood how things were done here at Quantico.
I assumed the same for your cohorts.
You might think it is my job to impede your progress
with my insistence on timelines and established protocols.
No, sir. Not at all. That is not my job.
没有长官 绝没有 那不是我的工作
My job is to provide guidance and quite a bit of protection.
I don't understand. Clearly.
You have stepped outside the shade of my umbrella
and you are now exposed to direct sunlight.
I applied for grant money from several sources
anticipating a response months from now.
Much to my surprise,
the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration was already aware
of our needs and activities.
I see. I had no intention
of embarrassing you, Unit Chief Shepard.
I was at a fund raiser for the university
and I was talking to some...
Yes, talking to people outside the FBI
about something you were not even supposed to be aware of.
The LEAA explained that the application was anticipated.
How could that be, I wondered.
It seems they know more about what's going on in our basement
than I was comfortable including in the application.
I so apologize. It... Sir, this is my fault.
我非常抱歉 长官 都是我的错
Your research has been awarded $200,000.
What? There's more.
As I said, I applied to more than one place for funding.
The National Institute of Justice heard about the LEAA,
and they are in competition,
so the NIJ has awarded you an additional $185,000.
You can't be serious.
This amount of money comes with considerable scrutiny.
And I'm not talking about bookkeeping as such,
although you will certainly
be required to keep meticulous records.
I'm talking about Congress
having a real interest in everything we do.
So much for the protection I might have afforded you.
Congratulations, I suppose.
Have a nice day.